get OpenPGP pubkeys authenticated using German personal ID
Alexander Leidinger
Alexander at leidinger.net
Fri Jun 2 07:55:24 CEST 2023
Quoting Andrew Gallagher <andrewg at andrewg.com> (from Thu, 1 Jun 2023
14:19:29 +0100):
> On 1 Jun 2023, at 12:23, Alexander Leidinger via Gnupg-users
> <gnupg-users at gnupg.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Quoting Bernhard Reiter <bernhard at intevation.de> (from Wed,
>> 31 May 2023 16:55:05 +0200):
>>
>>> Obviously they cannot authenticate the email address
>>> so once I have a common name, we get collisions?
>>
>> The signature is send to the email listed in the key. In case you
>> share a name with someone which has a PGP key and you sign this
>> key, the person(s) with access to that email account will get the
>> signature.
>
> This is not best practice. Normally when email verification is
> being performed, the gated action (such as certification, account
> creation etc.) is not done until after a (time-bound!)
> challenge/response succeeds. This places too much emphasis on
> verification of the (non-unique) “real name” component of the
> UserID, and not enough on the machine-readable email address.
>
> This opens up more fundamental questions about the meaning of
> signatures over RFC822 UserIDs - do they validate the “real name”,
> the email address, or some combination of the two? For example, an
> email-validating CA may only check the email address part, treating
> the “real name” as little more than a comment; while Governikus
> appear to be doing it the other way around. It is of course up to
> the receiver to decide how to interpret signatures, but it only
> compounds the problem when not only is the signer’s trustworthiness
> in question, but also their intent. How do you interpret the
> validity of a claim when it’s not even clear what the claim is?
>
I don't remember if there was a challenge/response or not. As I still
have the email with the signed key, I can tell that the signature can
arrive via a TLS encrypted SMTP channel directly from governicus (and
they have a SPF setup but not DKIM):
---snip---
Received: from smtp.governikus.de (smtp.governikus.de [194.31.70.126])
(using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)
key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest
SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256)
(Client CN "VPR-BOS004.dmz.bosnetz.de", Issuer
"VPR-BOS004.dmz.bosnetz.de" (not verified))---snip---
Bye,
Alexander.
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