pgp/mime vs in-line pgp

[Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder]

On Wednesday 14 April 2004 10.31, Per Tunedal Casual wrote:
> At 09:56 2004-04-14, you wrote:
>  >On Wednesday 14 April 2004 08.32, Per Tunedal Casual wrote:
>  >> PGP-MIME is far better but unfortunately PGP-MIME signed mail is
>  >> not transparent to non-pgp users. They will be confused by the
>  >> empty mail with the two strange attachments (though readable in a
>  >> texteditor). Thus I cannot use PGP-MIME widely.
>  >
>  >Name one mailer except MSOE which also shows this behaviour. All
>  > other mailers I've come across

Please, please, please, pretty please, do NOT cc: me on replies.

> NO, PGP-MIME looks really strange in Outlook Express. You'd better
> try it!

Also, please read what I wrote. I challenge you to name another mailer 
which *also* shows that broken behaviour. I know MSOE's behaviour. But 
your claim

| PGP-MIME signed mail is not transparent to non-pgp users. They will be
| confused by the empty mail with the two strange attachments

makes it sound like a general problem. It is *not* a general problem, it 
is a problem with one specific mail application from one vendor widely 
known for the outstanding quality of its software products. From 
hearsay, it's even only MSOE and not Outlook.

> I cannot give up the OE-users as they are the mainpart of my
> customers. Thus I have to stick to inlined pgp-signing (doesn't
> always verify OK) or switch to S-MIME (rather not!).

I can fully understand that situation. I tend to use PGP/MIME wherever 
possible, especially on mailing lists. As I've said in my previous 
email, I do make exceptions for the few MSOE users I have to 
communicate with. (and I also do not play the begin game with MSOE 
users.)

To my enjoyment, even many non-tech-savvy computer users and die-hard 
Windows victims I know are slowly switching from MSOE to Mozilla (in 
most cases without me urging me to), so that problem should disappear 
within a few years.

greetings
-- vbi

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