Proposal with patch: Make socket directory host dependent
Rainer Perske
rainer.perske at uni-muenster.de
Sun Nov 19 14:59:27 CET 2017
Hello,
> > Unfortunately I cannot use /run/user/(userid) because it is
> > maintained by systemd and in my webmailer situation it can be
> > deleted even if the agent is still running. (systemd does not know
> > anything about the sessions of a webmailer.)
> I'm not convinced this response makes much sense. Why *wouldn't* the
> system's service manager (systemd, in your case) be unaware of
> webmailer sessions?
> What is your webmail configuration doing that it is switching to a
> new user session, but deliberately avoiding registering that user
> session with the local system service manager?
Because systemd manages processes on a *single* host. I have servers
clustered and distributed over two locations for fail safety and load
distribution and a webmailer session is valid on all cluster hosts.
systemd (more exactly: "systemd-logind") cannot be used to manage
cluster-wide sessions.
So I have to fight with the fact that my webmailer is running in a
cluster, but GnuPG and its agent are not because they use
localhost-only sockets for interprocess communication and never were
designed to be used in a cluster environment.
I want to use GnuPG because it is the best software for this purpose so
my webmailer gives GnuPG an environment it is happy with.
Some more background information:
I do not need GnuPG sessions at all. If I could call gpgsm in a way
that no gpg-agent or dirmngr process and no socket file would survive
this call, this would be slower but I could live with it.
But GnuPG is now built in a way that always socket files are created
and that always gpg-agent and dirmngr are started the first time they
are needed. (You definitely have very good reasons to do so, avoiding
long startup times is one of them.) So I have to live with these files
and processes, for nearly 100,000 possible users.
Because the processes are running on single hosts, the socket files
must be placed on host-local file systems. Otherwise processes on other
hosts see the socket files but do not see the agents. Fall-back
location of the socket file is the user's home directory. In my
situation, this is a cluster-wide file system. And so I got into
trouble. This is the main cause for my patch and proposal.
To solve the problems, I must make sure that GnuPG places the socket
files on host-only file systems. My patch and proposal have this single
aim: Place the socket on a host-only file system but do not allow
cluster-unaware managers like "systemd-logind" to bother with them. So
I cannot use /run/user/ or /var/run/user/ that are managed by
systemd-logind.
A general solution would be to make these directories configurable. I
do not dare to ask you to develop such a general solution.
A simple solution would be to prepend GnuPG-specific host-local
directories not managed by systemd-logind to the list of directories.
Hence my proposal. According to the Linux File System Standard,
/var/run/gnupg/ (or /run/gnupg/ on those systems using /run/ ) seems to
be the best place in my eyes.
So my proposal (prepend /run/gnupg and /var/run/gnupg to /run and
/var/run ) would solve my problem. (My webmailer can make sure that
/run/gnupg/user/<UID> exists and has the correct owner, group, and
permissions before calling gpgsm. And my cluster-aware session
management can clean these directories.)
(I know that my solution can cause multiple agents running for the same
user on different hosts concurrently. But as far as I can see you are
using proper file locking so this does not cause any problem. At least
in the last 3 years my patch (see first mail of this thread) has not
caused any problem.)
Best regards
--
Rainer Perske
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